Showing posts with label Mai-Lise Nguyen. Show all posts
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Wednesday, June 26, 2019

Roche restarts redesigned Phase 3 Huntington’s disease trial


Three months after announcing it would reduce dosing in its historic Phase 3 Huntington’s disease clinical trial – and pausing for a reset – pharma giant Roche announced on June 20 that it has reopened recruitment for the study, known as GENERATION HD1.

GENERATION HD1 aims to measure whether Roche’s gene-silencing drug, RG6042, will slow, halt, or perhaps even reverse HD symptoms. In late January, Roche announced that it had enrolled the first participant in the trial, which will include a total of 660 volunteers at more than 90 sites in at least 18 countries around the world.

In the original trial design, participants would undergo monthly spinal tap (lumbar puncture) procedures over 25 months. One third of participants would receive RG6042 each month and one third every other month. A third would get a placebo.

However, with new, promising data in hand from an open-label extension (OLE) of the Phase 1/2a trial, on March 21 Roche announced that it would decrease lumbar punctures to once every other month over the same period of time (click here to read more). In this revised design, one third of participants will receive RG6042 every other month and one third every four months. One third will receive a placebo every other month.

The change in dosing required Roche to stop the trial to obtain updated approval from regulatory agencies in the respective countries where the program is operating. Recruitment had to start from scratch, with all new volunteers. Roche completed the necessary details for resuming the trial in just a few months, as it had hoped.

“In March we announced our plan to amend the dosing frequency and study design, which will make study participation less demanding for patients, their families and HD centers,” Mai-Lise Nguyen, Roche’s HD patient partnership director, wrote to the HD community in a June 20 e-mail update on the trial. “Since then, our team has been working to implement study changes and obtain approvals from clinical trial review boards and authorities around the world. Today I am pleased to share that we have reopened the study for recruitment of new patients.”


Mai-Lise Nguyen (photo by Gene Veritas)

Initial authorizations received

With the lumbar punctures, GENERATION HD1 clinicians introduce RG6042 into the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF), which circulates along the spine and bathes the brain. The researchers hope that the drug will penetrate the brain sufficiently and, as a result, stop progression of HD. 

Lumbar punctures are routine and generally safe procedures, although they can sometimes cause side effects such as headaches and bleeding. In GENERATION HD1, the dosing will be a 20-minute outpatient procedure.

Roche changed the dosing based on new data taken from the OLE of the Phase 1/2a clinical trial of RG6042. Phase 1/2a was run by Ionis Pharmaceuticals, Inc., the original developer of the drug. Involving 46 volunteers in Canada, Germany, and the United Kingdom, that trial ended successfully in December 2017: the drug substantially lowered the amount of mutant huntingtin protein, the purported cause of the disease, in the patients’ CSF, which could be an indication of what’s happening in the brain – again, something to be studied in Phase 3.

All 46 participants took part in the 15-month OLE, which is run in support of the overall RG6042 research program. Nine months into the OLE, Roche had data indicating that it could reduce dosing in the larger Phase 3 study. Whereas 25 percent of the Phase 1/2a volunteers got a placebo, all 46 received the drug in the OLE.

“Initial clinical trial authorizations to start the amended GENERATION HD1 study have been received, and we expect to receive the remaining approvals soon,” Nguyen stated. “Recruitment timing will be different at each participating HD clinic/center, because the protocol amendment must be fully approved and in place at each study site before local recruitment may open. Our team is working to rapidly activate the updated study protocol at each site.”

An updated country list

Nguyen provided an updated list of countries currently hosting the GENERATION HD1 sites: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Canada, Chile, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Poland, Russia, Spain, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and the United States.

Roche recommends that those interested in participating contact their local HD specialists. Individual site information will also be posted at ClinicalTrials.gov and ForPatients.Roche.com.

Individuals who had already started GENERATION HD1 before the announcement of the changes in dosing will be eligible to switch to GEN-EXTEND, an OLE study in which everybody receives RG6042 (no placebo).

Publication of the first data

The resumption of GENERATION HD1 comes in the wake of the first official publication of Phase 1/2a data. That article underscores the impressive results of the trial but also the need for careful study of RG6042 in Phase 3.

Co-authored by 22 scientists, including leaders of the Roche and Ionis HD teams, the article “Targeting Huntingtin Expression in Patients with Huntington’s Disease” appeared in the online edition of The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) on May 6 and in print on June 13.

The article confirmed that Phase 1/2a met its primary goal of demonstrating no serious adverse effects of RG6042.

The article also provided details demonstrating the extent to which RG6042 reduced the mutant protein in the CSF. However, it added that researchers still do not yet know whether that reduction in the CSF corresponds to a reduction in the human brain.

A ‘big leap forward,’ but with a critical need for Phase 3

The NEJM article also revealed that two tests showed results that could prove worrisome: temporary increases in the size of the ventricles (fluid-filled spaces) of the brain and in a biomarker (sign of disease) known as neurofilament light.

“Getting to the bottom of these potentially concerning lab tests requires a larger group of people, followed for a longer time,” commented HD researcher Jeff Carroll, Ph.D., in a May 7 HDBuzz.net article

In Huntington’s, the ventricles “appear to grow, as the [brain] tissue around them shrinks,” Dr. Carroll explained. This is “the opposite effect one would hope for if the drug was slowing brain shrinkage,” he added.

Regarding neurofilament light, Dr. Carroll observed that “this marker is released by sick and damaged brain cells called neurons, and researchers have previously demonstrated that it increases slowly and predictably in HD mutation carriers.”

The need to understand these test results is “exactly why Roche and Ionis are conducting a new, larger, study called the GENERATION-HD1 study,” Dr. Carroll continued.

Dr. Carroll concluded that “the now published results of the first study with a drug targeting the root cause of HD are a big leap forward for the community. They point towards refinements and cautions we should consider as we test the drug in larger groups of HD patients over a longer time.”

(Disclosure: I hold a symbolic amount of Ionis shares.)

Click on the links below for previous articles on RG6042.











Sunday, September 16, 2018

Roche Phase 3 clinical trial for Huntington’s disease gene-silencing drug to enroll volunteers in early 2019


The major drug company Roche expects to start enrolling subjects worldwide (including the U.S.) in early 2019 in its historic Phase 3 clinical trial of RG6042, a gene-silencing drug aimed at slowing, halting, and perhaps even reversing the symptoms of Huntington’s disease.

Roche made the announcement today at the bi-annual plenary meeting of the European Huntington’s Disease Network in Vienna, Austria, and issued a statement to the global HD community providing details (click here for the statement).

Designed by Roche partner Ionis Pharmaceuticals, Inc., and previously known as IONIS-HTTRx, RG6042 demonstrated impressive results in the Phase 1/2a trial completed by Ionis in December 2017.

On March 1, at CHDI Foundation's 13th Annual Huntington’s Disease Therapeutics Conference, researchers revealed that RG6042 caused Phase 1/2a trial volunteers to experience a drop of 40 to 60 percent in the harmful mutant huntingtin protein in their cerebral spinal fluid (CSF). According to the researchers, projecting from tests in animals, that corresponds to as much as an 85 percent decrease in the cortex of the brain. However, this trial did not measure actual efficacy – only safety and tolerability. (Click here to read more.)

Scientists have identified mutant huntingtin protein, resulting from a defective huntingtin gene inherited by HD patients and carried by presymptomatic individuals like me, as a principal cause of HD.

Because of the solid Phase 1/2a results, Roche has taken the unusual step of skipping a Phase 2 trial (testing efficacy for the first time) and going directly to a robust Phase 3, where researchers hope to test efficacy in 660 volunteers over 25 months at 80 to 90 sites in approximately 15 countries, to be announced gradually in the coming months. Phase 1/2a involved only 46 individuals, who received the drug over just three months at nine sites in Canada, Germany, and the United Kingdom.

In a detailed interview at the CHDI meeting, Roche officials confirmed that U.S. sites would take part in Phase 3 (click here to read more).  

GENERATION HD1: can it stop or slow HD?

“Following the completion of the Phase I/IIa first-in-human study of RG6042 in December, there are several important questions that still need to be answered before this investigational medicine can potentially be approved by Health Authorities in countries around the world,” said today’s Roche statement, signed by Mai-Lise Nguyen, the patient partnership director for the firm’s HD program.

Roche has named the study GENERATION HD1. 

As outlined by Nguyen, GENERATION HD1 will gauge the effects of reducing mutant huntingtin and whether RG6042 can “slow or stop the progression of HD.” It will also further examine the drug’s safety in a larger group of people over more time.


Members of the Roche HD clinical trial team watch the presentation of the RG6042 Phase 1/2a results at the 13th Annual HD Therapeutics Conference in Palm Springs, CA, March 1, 2018. From left to right, Scott Schobel, M.D., M.S., clinical science leader of product development; Lauren Boak, Ph.D., global development team leader; Erik Lundgren, lifecycle leader of the HD program; and Mai-Lise Nguyen, patient partner director (photo by Gene Veritas).

The trial will also study whether less than a monthly dose, which was used in Phase 1/2a, can prove effective. One third of participants will receive monthly doses of 120 mg, one third a bi-monthly dose of 120 mg, and another third a placebo dose monthly. As in the Phase 1/2a trial, participants will receive the drug via a lumbar puncture (a so-called intrathecal injection). 

To assure objectivity, the study will be “double-blinded” – neither the participants nor the researchers or site staff will know which dosage is administered. To reinforce objectivity, even the bi-monthly recipients (who won’t know they’re in this group) will take part monthly; they'll get the placebo every other month. Site information will be posted on the site www.HDTrialFinder.org.

Today’s statement underscored the “urgency” felt by Roche to conduct GENERATION HD1 but pointed out that not all patients and research clinics will be able to participate. “Please understand the studies are designed to provide Authorities with the required data so that the benefit-risk of RG6042 can be determined as quickly as possible,” it stated.

For now, because Roche needs to demonstrate the efficacy and safety of RG6042, the firm will offer access to the drug only through participation in clinical trials. This means patients cannot make early access (prior to regulatory approval), so-called compassionate use, or “right to try” requests.

At this time, presymptomatic gene carriers and juvenile HD patients are ineligible for GENERATION HD1.

Additional studies

In addition, Roche will conduct a second, 15-month observational study – without a drug – called The HD Natural History Study. Starting towards the end of this year, it will gauge the natural progression of the disease in up to 100 participants with early-stage HD at up to 17 sites in Canada, Germany, the United Kingdom, and the U.S.

By seeking to deepen understanding of the role of the mutant huntingtin protein in HD, the Natural History Study will provide context for GENERATION HD1. Participants will undergo four lumbar punctures, plus MRI scans, blood tests, and neurological examinations. Like the volunteers in GENERATION HD1, they will use digital monitoring devices.

Meanwhile, all 46 participants in the Phase I/IIa study continue to receive RG6042 as part of an “open-label extension” study run by Ionis to assess the safety and tolerability of longer use of the drug. Those who got placebo originally now get the medicine.

Fast-tracking drug evaluation

The EHDN update comes in the wake of an August 2 announcement by Ionis and Roche that RG6042 received “PRIME” (PRIority MEdicine) status from the European Medicines Agency (EMA), a regulatory body similar to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

“We are very pleased that the European Medicines Agency has granted PRIME designation for RG6042, as there is an urgent medical need to find treatment options for families affected by Huntington’s disease,” Sandra Horning, M.D., Roche’s chief medical officer and head of global product development, stated in a press release.

According to the EMA, firms benefitting from PRIME “can expect to be eligible for accelerated assessment” in the drug approval process, reducing the standard timeframe of 210 days to 150 days.

A major step, but not the last

In March, after witnessing the revelation that RG6042 successfully lowered mutant huntingtin protein in the CSF, I wrote: “It’s the best news the HD community has received since the publication of the research confirming the discovery of the gene 25 years ago this month. As scientists have observed, it’s also a major step for disease and drug research in general.”

The August 24 issue of the magazine Science published a balanced article about the Ionis-Roche clinical trials titled “Daring to Hope,” including the struggles of Canadian woman and Phase 1/2a trial and open-label extension participant Michelle Dardengo. She describes some improvements in her symptoms – although doctors caution that her situation is merely anecdotal and not proof of actual drug effectiveness.

Michelle’s 27-year-old son Joel has also tested positive for HD. He was more skeptical about her apparent improvement.

“I do wish for the best,” Joel states in the article. “At the same time, I do prepare for the worst.”

Like all of the HD community, Michelle, Joel, and I must wait for the completion of GENERATION HD1 early in the next decade to see if RG6042 can help save us from HD.

For discussion of the Roche announcement at the EHDN meeting, see the HDBuzz Twitter feed for September 16, 2018.

(Disclosure: I hold a symbolic amount of Ionis shares.)

Wednesday, March 28, 2018

Roche gears up for pivotal Phase 3 Huntington’s disease gene-silencing clinical trial


Pharmaceutical giant Roche – currently without a timeline, but mindful of the urgency – is gearing up for the pivotal Phase 3 clinical trial of IONIS-HTTRx, the gene-silencing drug shown to dramatically reduce the amount of the toxic protein implicated in Huntington’s disease in Phase 1/2a trial results announced March 1.

The earlier study was aimed only to assess safety and tolerability, but also provided signals regarding the drug’s potential efficacy. IONIS-HTTRx lowered the mutant huntingtin protein an average of 40 percent, with a maximum reduction of 60 percent, in the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) of participants in the Ionis Pharmaceuticals Phase 1/2a trial, completed in December 2017. Based on animal studies, that corresponds to reductions in the cerebral cortex of 55-85 percent. (Click here to read more.)

If Phase 3 is successful, that reduction in the cerebral cortex could mean alleviation or even reversal of HD symptoms. The source of thought and language, the cortex is the most developed area of the brain, and the most severely hampered by HD.

IONIS-HTTRx clinical trial leaders presented the results at the 13th Annual Huntington’s Disease Therapeutics Conference, sponsored by CHDI Foundation, Inc., and held at the Parker Palm Springs hotel in Palm Springs, CA. A nonprofit virtual biotech, CHDI has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the quest for treatments, including a $10 million payment to Ionis, later repaid to the foundation. It has helped draw attention to HD in the pharmaceutical industry.

Roche officials confirmed that the company would take the unusual step of skipping a Phase 2 trial (testing efficacy for the first time) and going directly to a Phase 3 (confirming efficacy in hundreds of participants).

The impressive Phase 1/2a results were the best news for the HD community since the discovery of the huntingtin gene in 1993. Forty-six early-stage HD patients took part at sites in England, Germany, and Canada.

A partner in the Ionis HD program since 2013, Roche now holds the license to IONIS-HTTRx. It is already conducting an open-label extension of the Phase 1/2a study, whereby all patients – including those who got placebo – will receive the drug. The extension allows researchers to gather critical additional data for planning Phase 3.

Roche now calls the drug RG6042. “R” is for Roche, and “G” for Genentech, a major U.S.-based biotech firm acquired by Roche in 2009. The number 6042 is a standard drug number assigned by the company. All U.S-based Roche personnel and products still use the name Genentech.

With a 120-year history and about 94,000 employees worldwide, Roche will bring considerable resources to bear in the Phase 3 trial. Hundreds will become involved in the project. It had a major presence at the CHDI meeting: twelve researchers and other personnel attended, including Scott Schobel, M.D., M.S., clinical science leader of product development.

“We’re all in,” Dr. Schobel told me, referring to the company’s commitment to the program.

To learn more about the plans for Phase 3, I interviewed three key members of the HD team, all based at Roche headquarters in Basel, Switzerland.

Lauren Boak, Ph.D., in her twelfth year at Roche, is the global development team leader, responsible for helping design, set up, and analyze clinical trials. Also in his twelfth year, Erik Lundgren, a Harvard University MBA, is the lifecycle leader of the HD team, involved in the manufacture and supply of the potential medicine, plus related matters such as regulatory approvals and educating the community about the drug. In her fifth year, Mai-Lise Nguyen is the patient partnership director for the HD program.


Members of the Roche HD clinical trial team watch the presentation of the IONIS-HTTRx Phase 1/2a data, March 1, 2018. From left to right, Scott Schobel, M.D., M.S., Lauren Boak, Ph.D., Erik Lundgren, and Mai-Lise Nguyen (photo by Gene Veritas).

Phase 3 ‘appropriate and reasonable’

The three representatives were excited about working with the HD community and passionate about their work on the Roche HD project.

GV: From Roche’s standpoint, what was observed in the HD patients in the Ionis-HTTRx Phase 1/2a trial?

LB: We’re very pleased to see that over a number of increasing doses, over four doses, the drug was safe and tolerable in HD patients and, also, that there was lowering of huntingtin, in a dose-dependent manner. As you increase the doses, the protein reduction was also increased. So, fantastic results from that study.

EL: It’s a step towards validating this hypothesis that we can target and reduce the causal protein, the root of this disease. It’s extraordinarily important to be able to demonstrate that that’s possible therapeutically. But it’s also important to remind everyone that this is an early, Phase 1 study. It’s 46 patients, and we certainly all owe a debt of thanks to those 46 people for being a part of early research. This trial also only studied four doses.  So while we are very encouraged about these early results, there are still extremely important questions that we need to address as we go forward.

GV: Will you go straight to Phase 3?

EL: Yes. We do think it’s appropriate and reasonable to go from here into larger studies that would support registration and filings for drug approval, so what would typically be referred to as Phase 3. In a rare disease, it’s not necessarily important to think about Phase 1, Phase 2, Phase 3. What we’re really focused on is: what are the requirements of regulators to ultimately look at the supporting evidence for this experimental medicine and make a determination that it’s acceptable for approval and, ultimately, to make accessible to the HD community? That is a registrational study, or a pivotal study.

However, an important caveat is: ultimately, we need to engage with – and we’re doing this work – FDA and global health authorities to understand what those requirements are, and to make sure that we’re building a clinical study program that addresses their questions.


Gene Veritas (right, aka Kenneth P. Serbin) interviews Lauren Boak, Ph.D., and Erik Lundgren (photo by Mai-Lise Nguyen, Roche).

Confidence in moving forward

GV: Was it the strong data from Phase 1/2a that led you to this conclusion? Ionis officials said that huntingtin was lowered “beyond expectations” in the CSF.

LB: Actually, it’s more related to the disease itself, and how much we know about the underlying cause of Huntington’s disease. It’s a monogenetic disease, and we know that it’s caused by a mutation in the gene that leads to the formation of a toxic protein, mutant huntingtin. Because of that knowledge, we have elevated confidence – versus, say, other neurodegenerative disorders – that if we target that mutant huntingtin and reduce it, it will lead to clinical benefit. That gives us confidence that we would be able to have a shorter path to demonstrate efficacy and therefore get to an approved medicine.

EL: But it’s not only about the monogenetic nature of the disease; it’s about the incredible commitment and selflessness of this community that’s dedicated to building a knowledge base that we can hopefully use to really accelerate from this point forward. The evidence that has been generated for Huntington’s disease and by the HD community is what gives us that scientific confidence. It’s the work of groups like CHDI and the rest of the HD community over years – of being a part of registry studies, of really being committed to and dedicated to research. We say “thank you” to the community for doing that.

MN: We’ve had relationships with the community. Now we’re at the point where we can build them further, by having discussions with the patient groups, with HD-Cope. We’re speaking with members of the community to make sure that we’re designing this next phase together.


CHDI’s role

GV: It’s evident that the investment CHDI has made in Huntington’s research is part of what you’re talking about.

EL: Yes.

GV: Have you consulted with CHDI as you move ahead?

LB: One of the great achievements that CHDI has spearheaded is the development of the Enroll-HD platform. Obviously, this built upon Registry and other efforts in the field. What the Enroll-HD platform gives – with over 16,000 patients worldwide enrolled – is a wealth of data available characterizing the natural history of patients (people living with HD over a period of time). We can learn a lot from this data.

The way CHDI has funded this, it’s an open source available for all researchers and industry. It’s just an incredible resource that is actually unique to Huntington’s. It’s such a rich resource, because of the number of years since the gene’s been discovered, and the countless efforts that have gone into it. From the standpoint of working together with CHDI, we’ll certainly be leveraging this along with a number of other groups such as HSG [Huntington Study Group], EHDN [European Huntington's Disease Network], and just the broader community.


GV: In the pharmaceutical industry, how common is it to go from a Phase 1 directly to a Phase 3?

EL: It’s not particularly common. You need confidence in the science. You need a medicine that shows promise. And there needs to be some urgency: the devastation of this disease, and the urgent needs of this community.  So, while it is not common, there is a well established regulatory pathway for us to follow.

LB: This is very well recognized by regulatory agencies. That’s why there is, as much as possible, flexibility within the pathways available for diseases such as this, with this type of potential medicine. Other areas that have this sort of Phase-1-to-Phase-3, seamless approach include oncology, where you have the obvious devastation of cancer and life-threatening nature of the disease.

EL: The ability to target is the other place where this overlaps with oncology – the ability to identify biologically a target and to develop a molecule that can effectively engage with that target and act on it.

Ionis’ comprehensive preparation

GV: Is the extreme care, amount of time, and extensive collaboration that Ionis used in developing its antisense oligonucleotide drug (ASO, an artificial strand of DNA blocking the production of the HD protein) one of the reasons for the jump to Phase 3?

LB: Ionis has developed a very comprehensive package for this medicine, and their expertise in ASOs is unparalleled. They have done a lot of work to develop a preclinical package – the preclinical animal data – to support the move into the clinic. That strength in the preclinical package gives us confidence in what we see in the clinic. We’ve got evidence that the drug is getting into the brain and is lowering mutant huntingtin.

Our confidence in whether this amount of mutant huntingtin would be enough to potentially lead to clinical benefit in humans is based on this solid animal, preclinical package. If we lower mutant huntingtin to a certain extent, based on the broad phenotypic [observable] changes and improvements in animals, in HD transgenic models, that will lead to a similar, broad effects in humans. Obviously, we need to do the next clinical study to prove that the lowering of the huntingtin protein leads to improved symptoms in patients with HD.

In addition, the Phase 1/2a study was designed and executed seamlessly. They chose very experienced scientific and collaborative investigators. It was a very solid and dedicated team, as is, we’re learning, the HD community in general.


Adding the U.S., other countries

GV: What are the key elements of the work you need to do as you head into Phase 3?

LB: We’re starting to think about what the next clinical trial will look like, and how it will be designed. We’re working with different stakeholders that will help guide this, such as patients, patient organizations and the regulators, to understand what the needs are to move this drug forward to approval. That’s a big effort and well underway. The medicine is moving into a global study. The Phase 1/2a was in Germany, the United Kingdom, and Canada. This next study will be across more countries, including the U.S. So we’re at the stage of exploring what additional countries the study will be conducted in and then identifying sites.

EL: The other group that’s really important here are payers, so insurers or national payers in European or other non-U.S. markets. The goal is to make this medicine available to people, and that means you have to address regulatory questions first, then you have to provide compelling data so that insurers will allow people to have access to the medicine.

GV: Do you know much you’ll have to spend to get this into Phase 3?

EL: No. And it’s not something that’s the driving force. Honestly, at this point, it’s about getting the answers right. We’ve made significant investments, and we’ll continue to do what needs to be done to answer the questions in front of us.

GV: How many participants are you estimating will take part in the next phase?

LB: We don’t know at this point. It’s dependent on the final design of the study, how many dose arms [dosages] we have, the particular endpoints [outcome measures], as examples. But likely in the hundreds.

A ‘small army’ at work

GV: How many people at Roche are working on the project?

EL: It’s a small army [laughter]. Obviously, the number is increasing as we’ve opted into move the program forward. It’s a team that is mostly based in Basel, but is global in scope. It’s an incredibly passionate group of people.

GV: Are we talking dozens of people on the HD team? Hundreds?

EL: It will be hundreds, for sure. It takes an unbelievable amount of effort to go from here to where we and the HD community need to be. The global aspect is extremely important. If you’re living with HD – whether you have the gene yourself or are symptomatic or are a caregiver or just an interested party – it’s a very individual issue. So we have to find a way to serve the individual nature of this problem, but also have an eye to the global nature of what we need to do to be able to serve every appropriate person that could potentially benefit, and that’s not only people that reside within the United States, for instance. It increases the complexity of the work that we have to do quite significantly.

We’ll be communicating on sites and timing and all those sorts of issues later. I can confirm that U.S. clinical trial sites will definitely be included in for the next phase. The trial will be important, but the trial is not the vehicle for people to have access to the drug. Ultimately, approval by health authorities [in specific countries] is the path for people to have access.

Timeline pending

GV: When will the next phase will start?

EL: We can’t commit at this point to when the next phase will start. There’s just a lot of unknown factors. We understand that that’s a pressing question that everyone wants an answer to. What’s most important for us is doing the work to make sure that the pivotal study is going to address and answer all of the questions that need to be addressed. We cannot afford to cut corners.

GV: Do you have an estimate of how many years it will take?

EL: It depends on a lot of things. When do we get it started? How long do people need to be in a study for us to have confidence that, if there’s a benefit to be observed, we give ourselves the best chance to see it in that study? So is it a one-year, 18-month, two-year, three-year, or four-year study? We’re very data-driven in how we make those determinations.

Another huge factor is: how many patients will we need in the study? It’s going to go faster if it’s fewer patients. It’s going to take longer if it’s more patients. The other piece that’s really important is: how long does it take to recruit that number of patients for the study? We’ll be able to give you a better answer to these questions later in the year.


An HD patient (photo by Mike Nowak)

Roche’s interest in HD

GV: How and why did Roche get involved in this project? What is it about HD that has attracted the company?

LB: This project was of real high interest to [former Roche executive] Luca Santarelli and the neuroscience group at the time because of the incredible groundbreaking science that Ionis had done and the promise of this particular medicine and, clearly, what potential it had to transform the lives of those with Huntington’s disease.

EL: Our organization has two principal pillars. First and foremost, Roche and Genentech are science-based organizations. The first thing we look for is: is the science compelling? Is it innovative? Is there a hypothesis we have confidence in? Right next to that is the need of the community. We’ve got a really excellent track record of transforming diseases that needed transformation, and hard problems: oncology, multiple sclerosis, ophthalmology, immunology. From that perspective, Huntington’s disease is an area where the science is rich and the needs of the community very well-established.

We’re being flooded with people within Roche that want to be a part of the HD program, because it speaks so powerfully to those two central parts of really who we are as an organization.

Roche is known in the broader scope for the innovation and transformation we brought to oncology. A really great example of that would be in HER2-positive breast cancer. HER2-positive is the most aggressive form of breast cancer. It had significantly higher rates of mortality. But it’s now become what people would like to have because effective treatments are available.

It’s also a really good example of not resting on laurels. We brought a product called trastuzumab, or Herceptin, to that community in 1998. And then, within the past five or six years, we’ve brought two more therapies that have improved upon trastuzumab and led to even more radical improvements for those patients.

MN: That is probably our most famous medicine. Roche has 30 medicines on the World Health Organization’s essential medicines list. Roche’s legacy has continued to grow, including with the integration with Genentech, which was the first biotech company in the world.

A new era for neurodegenerative treatments?

GV: What other neurodegenerative diseases are you focusing on?

LB: In our late-stage portfolio, we have two monoclonal antibodies in development for Alzheimer’s disease, as well as a number of others in earlier stage development for Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and ALS. In neuroscience generally, we have Ocrevus, which was recently approved for multiple sclerosis. We also have a number of programs in development for neuromuscular disorders and autism.

GV: What would treating HD effectively with RG-6042 mean for the field of neurodegenerative diseases?

LB: It would be a historic moment obviously for Huntington’s disease patients, but for the neurodegenerative field in general. One of the achievements would be to get a targeted therapy to the brain. We’ve seen evidence of that already with this medicine. The next step is to show that reducing a causative protein leads to clinical benefit. If we can do this, the hope is that this will herald a new era for neurodegenerative diseases because of what we can learn from Huntington’s disease and then apply to Alzheimer’s disease, to Parkinson’s disease, to ALS.

GV: It seemed that the pharmaceutical industry was moving away from neurodegenerative diseases. The companies were frustrated because they couldn’t develop treatments. The scientists were frustrated because they nobody wanted to invest anymore. You have jumped into what appears to have been a difficult situation. Can you comment on this?

EL: Neurodegenerative diseases are hard, because the science is opaque in many cases. Getting medicines to the brain has been an incredibly difficult challenge. The endpoints – the way in which clinical trials measure a treatment effect – are complex. It’s hard to see and measure and be able to prove with statistics that you’re having an effect in neurodegenerative diseases. In some of these diseases, it can take a really long time for the disease course to run. It makes it hard to run these trials.

We’re not discouraged. We’re quite encouraged, because in this case we think we do understand the science. We have been able to demonstrate that RG6042 gets into the brain and that we’re able to affect this protein.

Rare-disease status not a problem

GV: How does the fact that HD is a “rare disease” factor into your plans for Phase 3 and the rest of the project?

LB: The fact that it’s rare from a clinical trial perspective is important. There aren’t as many patients to participate in a clinical trial as in other diseases. However, because of our confidence in our understanding the disease and the mechanism of the medicine, the actual clinical trial size doesn’t necessarily need to be that big.

Also, it’s a rare disease, but not very rare disease. It’s actually a high-prevalence rare disease. In the case of HD, we are blessed with clinical trial networks that already exist that we can leverage such as HSG and EHDN.

EL: I don’t like the term “rare disease.” It makes it feel small, something off to the side. What all of us are personally struck by is: if you’re an HD family or a gene carrier or affected with symptoms, it doesn’t feel small. We think of HD as a really big problem to address.

Spinal injections to continue

GV: In the Phase 1/2a trial, patients received the drug via an intrathecal (spinal) injection, with the medicine carried to the brain via the natural flow of the CSF. In 2013, Luca Santarelli spoke of a possible alternative: using “brain shuttle” technology to introduce the Ionis drug into the brain in the form of a pill. What is the status of this research? Will it be used in Phase 3?

EL: The brain shuttle is exciting. We continue to invest in understanding that technology better. For us, the most important thing right now is to demonstrate the safety and effectiveness of RG6042 in people living with HD. There is enough complexity with just that question that we need to be laser-focused on first addressing that one before we add in the additional uncertainty that would be introduced by the unproven brain shuttle. Longer-term, we understand the attractiveness of something like a brain shuttle in HD.

GV: So will Phase 3 use the spinal injection?

LB: Yes.

EL: An intrathecal injection is a way to get around the blood-brain barrier, one of the central problems of neurodegenerative diseases. It’s an effective and reasonably well-tolerated approach, especially in a disease like HD.

Participants to use special smartwatch

GV: What other new technologies, techniques, and approaches might be used in Phase 3?

LB: One thing that we are developing – building on recent experience in multiple sclerosis and Parkinson’s disease – is a Roche HD Digital Monitoring Platform. It’s a smartphone and watch for use in the clinical study. We’ve tailored it for Huntington’s disease to measure appropriate symptoms and activity in the disease. Instead of just irregular clinic visits – single-day data points on patients’ symptoms and how they’re feeling – we’ll have potentially daily, continuous monitoring of this.

This has potential to increase sensitivity to detect treatment effects. There are 365 days of the year, and imagine if there’s only twelve visits in that period. There’s a lot that happens over the course of a day, let alone a month. There’s an inherent problem also with being able to remember, for anybody, how you were feeling a day ago, let alone a week ago, etc. It’s your recall bias. We’re really excited about this. We’ve already started deploying it in the open-label extension study. We’re going to learn and perhaps adapt this for inclusion in the pivotal study, Phase 3.

GV: Will the participants wear electrodes?

LB: No, there is a smartwatch and smartphone and everything that’s already built in, like a gyrometer and accelerometer. These are sensors that will detect movement.

EL: We don’t want to miss any signals – good ones or bad ones – that our trial participants have. It gives us more confidence that we’ll be able to see something happening, measure it, quantify it, and, ultimately, prove it. This is obvious to the HD community, but it’s important for how we design our study. HD affects so many different domains. It’s not just walking speed and spasticity and motor symptoms; it’s cognition, too.

There are two aspects of this digital platform: active monitoring and passive monitoring. The active monitoring will have different tests for the individual to do on a given day, such as a walking or cognitive test. With the passive monitoring they can have the smartphone in their pocket or on a belt and be monitored on how much they move in the course of a day.

GV: Will it measure pulse or be connected to the blood in any way?

EL: No. It’s a smartphone like you buy off the shelf. The software is what’s special, and the analytics engine behind it. A tremendous amount of data comes in. The algorithms and how you make sense of that is what our team has been working hard on developing.


A graphic illustrating the Roche-HD Digital Monitoring Platform (source: Roche)

Earning the community’s trust

GV: For many people, including in the HD community, “big pharma” is just out for profits. I understand that these are business enterprises, and we don’t live in a socialist system. But then you have things like the opioid crisis, which is driven by a lot of bad actors in the business. There’s also the idea that some companies just want to go for blockbuster drugs while ignoring smaller disease communities. Would you like to comment on this?

EL: We’re all quite passionate about this issue.

MN: We can only speak to Roche. I personally think Roche is a very unique company. We’ve had the same name over the door for over 120 years. We are still a majority family-owned company. The Hoffman-Roche family’s descendants are still involved in the company. Our vice chairman, AndrĂ© Hoffmann, said a phrase when he was speaking with some students this past summer. He and the whole leadership team believe that Roche needs to be a “net-positive contributor” to society.

We are lucky already that our core business is about health care. We’re already a contribution to society. But how do you be that net-positive? It’s about serving healthcare solutions, but we do so many other things with the communities that we operate in and beyond, whether it’s with social programs and philanthropy.

EL: We owe it to the HD community to earn trust. So we’re here to listen and engage, and we hope to hear back from the HD community if we fail in that test. This is not transactional for us. This is about partnering to make a difference. We’ve all chosen to do this because we’re moved by it. On our life cycle team, we talk about what we care about. One of our core pillars is keeping people with HD in the center of every decision we make. At the end of every meeting, we go around the room and score ourselves on that. It is not lip service.

(For the slides from a March 2, 2018 conference call and webcast regarding the Ionis-Roche clinical trial program, click here.)

(For updates on the RG6042 program, stay tuned to this blog and also visit www.HDSA.org and HDSA's HD Trial Finder)

(Disclosure: I hold a symbolic amount of Ionis shares.)